This Week's Topic:

[twopoint]

Hi!

Question: How long does it take after you've edited and posted a fic to be able to re-read it without feeling like you're going to throw up?

(I'm seriously emetophobic, so typing the words 'throw up' is very hard for me, but no other phrase comes close to expressing my feelings on this matter.)

Comments

[voksen.livejournal.com]

I, honestly, never like anything I write. I'll sometimes like sections of 100 words or so, but a whole fic - never. It usually gets worse with time for me, too; I'm much, much more likely to think something is okay when I finish it and then a month or three later think it's fucking garbage than have my opinion go up.

[two-point.livejournal.com]

Yes! Yes! That! And drabbles/short pieces are easier to stare at without my stomach burning.

Why the hell do we do this?

[voksen.livejournal.com]

The difference here is that your fics are awesome and mine are not, so I am being honest and you are being overly self-critical. ;)

(oh god, oh god, I have 46,000 words of weiss kreuz fic and it's all terrible)

[two-point.livejournal.com]

Oh, I can write the worse shit ever! Any goodness comes from being suddenly possessed by a stray spirit who knows how to write a descriptive paragraph.

Your golf club scene is still my canon.

I post maybe 5%, maybe less, of what I write. What about you?

[voksen.livejournal.com]

I hear people say that and my reaction is GIVE ME THE REST, WHY ARE YOU HOLDING OUT ON ME, I'M GOING TO CUT A BITCH. Pretty much the only reason I don't post things that I have is if I wander off in the middle of them due to tiny attention span and they never got finished. (Not exactly super-rare, but...) I can actually only think of one thing that I never put up and never will because it sucked, but it's long enough that it's hard to delete.

Now, while writing I often delete a lot/start over because I don't like things, but that's different.

[two-point.livejournal.com]

If I posted the other 95% it would burn your eyes and you'd sue me. Think of it as tens of thousands of words of C telling S how much he loves him. You're really better off not knowing.

I want to learn how to write for a purpose, like your kink bingo. I want to do that.

[voksen.livejournal.com]

I bet you're lying.



So sign up for kink bingo. Signups are open for another day til the 14th derp. Do it. Jump in the deep end.

[two-point.livejournal.com]

I swear to god, I'm not.

But then ahpookishere would beat me with a tire iron because I haven't added to the soviet art heist story in three weeks. It's her fault.

[voksen.livejournal.com]

You totally are. Prove it.

You can always do soviet russia first even if you sign up, because kb amnesty doesn't end until next year, so there's lots of time. Plus, oh my god, I am the only person who writes porn that isn't shit like crawford/aya or yohji/aya, except for ahpook, but she only wrote hers because I kicked her into it. and hers was better than mine, bawww, shot myself in the foot there.

[two-point.livejournal.com]

You'll regret this!

90% of the 95% is porn. Or I should say, porn-ish. How about this -- I'll get over my irrational fears of posting no plot and rather than kink bingo, I will post my porn.

[voksen.livejournal.com]

yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss(x9000) p.s. BTW WHY NO AIM

[questails.livejournal.com]

Oh, admitting THAT was a mistake. I want this mysterious 95%, and I want it yesterday!!!

[two-point.livejournal.com]

But it's all smut! And I think I gave you at least 20% of it this afternoon. Is plot really necessary?

[questails.livejournal.com]

And do you know what? That 20% was TOO SHORT. Let us consult the Google Documents: 26,418 words - and it Was Not Enough. I sat here and whined, very softly, when there were no more beautiful words to read!

[two-point.livejournal.com]

But there was smut!

You're really wonderful, and it has nothing to do with your Leo-ness. Some. But that's not all.

[questails.livejournal.com]

Of course it has nothing to do with my Leo-ness, but it has everything to do with bits like this:

Erestor knew, as he had known throughout the age, that the sea was too large to comprehend. The place where Glorfindel’s kisses took him was too much like the sea.

.. that make my vision dim briefly, then when it returns, I'm seeing as bees do, in ultraviolet, colors that don't properly exist, and it's beautiful and feels wonderful and strange in my chest. It causes me to view the world around me a little differently, and that's the hallmark of a damn good story - you have to readjust your thinking to make room for it to stay for awhile.

[two-point.livejournal.com]

And then you write these descriptive paragraphs that, again, say exactly what I wanted to say, but couldn't. Ah. You must write. And draw. And also write.

Erestor is terrified of ships. I think I'm happiest with Chap.3 on and I'm sticking with it. Again, who needs plot?

[voksen.livejournal.com]

WHAT TREACHERY IS THIS???? I WANT IT NOW. POSTHASTE. NOW NOW NOW NOW.

[two-point.livejournal.com]

It's Tolkien smut. Like with elves and stuff. Surely you don't want elf porn.

[voksen.livejournal.com]

I have read tolkien porn.

oh, the tolkien porn I have read.

oh boy.


incidentally I once wrote a term paper on tolkien porn...

[two-point.livejournal.com]

This term paper. Did it include pics of elves with pierced genetalia?

Can I please read your Tolkien porn term paper???? I'm dead serious about this one. I must read this. I must.

[lauand.livejournal.com]

No way. If I've taken the pain to write it, to type it up, to edit it, to rewrite it upside down, to hate its guts, I POST IT. Even if I think it's shit. I don't think I have a high standard to stick to, so I allow myself to post crap. I don't think I've ever written a good sex scene (why are they so difficult, oh, why!??), but that doesn't deter me from posting them.

As I said not that long ago in a conversation with e_p_kitty, when talking about her 164 WIPs, never to be finished because she thinks they're bad: A PERSON'S CRAP IS ANOTHER PERSON'S FERTILIZER.

Sorry for butting in. I'm aware I do this a lot.

[two-point.livejournal.com]

You must butt in!

You figure out the mystery of the sex scene and tell me how to write it. They're hard! Harder than anything (hehe) and it might be because there's a very thin line between Bad Sex Scene and Good Sex Scene and one never knows if it works until it's out there.

[thrihyrne.livejournal.com]

I post maybe 5%, maybe less, of what I write.

You're hiding away writing?? I wantssssss it. Well, maybe I'm better not reading it, because I would just compare myself and come up short. But I'd love reading your wordcraft, no matter what. Everything you write that I've read has been written by a spirit that is firmly embedded in you, because everything I've read is gorgeously evocative and descriptive and makes me despair of myself.

So there. :P

[two-point.livejournal.com]

Isn't it utterly bizarre what I just commented back to you before reading this comment? And you are a kind, kind soul -- and you know how I feel about your writing! good lord -- but I'm going to give all this 95% a locked life and learn to slowly lead into it.